Out of curiosity and to put someones mind at rest, I wonder if people here might offer some info...

We know it is not possible at the moment to erect living accommodation on Rustic Land or to live on rustic land. Only buildings which are complementary to agriculture can be erected- and then only with a technical report from an architect to justify doing so. However, many estate agents are still selling land 'suitable for caravans' or 'suitable for wooden cabins' etc.

Knowing that many estate agents are selling such fincas and that people are buying such fincas and living on them, we were wondering how many people are actually living on fincas and what - if any - problems are they encountering from the local town halls/councils? I'm not talking about problems with cedulahs etc. this is an entirely different subject. How many people here are being told to move off their land?

On a slightly related subject with regards to camping, it is illegal in Spain to 'Wild Camp' and camping/cravaning is only allowed on registered campsites. But - what about putting a tent on your own land for tempary visitors? what is the situation here?

If someone is able to say what the situation actually is, rather than what they think the situation is it would be really helpful.  :-?

Many thanks,
John.

Hi John.

If you want a rock solid answer I would suggest that you go and speak to lawyer like David Pique in Miami Platja. You may have to pay something but you will have the correct info. I had so much conflicting information regarding my purchase all was resolved after I engaged David Pique, he did a very good job for me.

Hi John,

The problem in your question is the element of "the local town halls". There isn't an identical set of rules for all the town halls. And even if they had the same rules, they won't act on them in the same way. Also most of the time it isn't townhall but the forestal police (and sometimes the rural police) who act on illegal activities on fincas. I've been here for many years and I know lots of people with tents and caravans on their land for temporary visitors. In only three cases I know of the rurals or forestals did take 'action':

The first case was a friend of mine who had a small caravan on his land for 10 years. The new local forestal did tell him he must paint his caravan green because then it will fit better into the landscape. My friend said he would think about it and never heard anything of it again.

The second case was a funny on: a big group of friends thought they were camping on their land. The gardia civil came and told them they have to go. The neighbour had called the gardia and reported there were gypsies on his land. He didn't dare to go and look for himself but it where just his neighbours who didn't know exactly were their borders are ;D They moved the camp to their own land.

The third was a guy who had a huge caravan and lived on his finca. Because of he protested against a windmill-project on his land suddenly the gardia came (after a few years of camping) and told him it was illegal to place a caravan on the land. Because it was a caravan with wheels he claimed it was temporary and mobile. He moved the caravan to different spots on his finca every time they visited him to proof it was just a mobile thing. After a few times they did give up.

mark

We have a yurt which we have had up for months at a time with people staying in it and have never had a problem.  As far as I  can make out no-one seems to mind if the accomodation is temporary, you can even sleep in your almacen as long as it is only a temporary arrangement.

As for 'wild camping' it usually goes unnoticed, mainly I guess because there is so much countryside and very few Rurals.  We don't mind people making overnight stays on our finca as long as they don't make a mess or steal anything...obviously.

Thank you everybody. This is appreciated.
John.