i would love to have 20 acres of legal land on a hillside somewhere ,i have half a hectare on one hillside near ginestar with an illegal build and i am supposed to have 1.74 hectares also near ginestar but my neighbours claim that some of that is theirs ,6000 m2 of it to be precise,i was stitched up by a nightmare of an agent ,
so to anyone who has a legal property and are enjoying it,i am pretty jealous! because my time in catalunya so far has been a hellish time 

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i dont know what tony is trying to say but if he is takeing the pi.. out of people trying to sell OR GET A CEDULA then thats not on

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No I don't think its funny and I am not trying to take the piss.  What I get fed up with is that after every useful posting has been made it is then followed up with a general moan about Catalunya.  Why can you not pass on the helpful stuff without these remarks ?   I enjoy living here and think that it was the best move of my life but I don't finish every posting with how great it is to be here instead of in rip-off Britain.

And if you don't think that it is rip-off Britain then perhaps you are not at pensioner trying to survive on the following compared to what an illegal immigrant receives.

The British Government provides the following financial assistance: -

BENEFIT
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS / REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN

Weekly allowance
£100
£250

Weekly Spouse allowance
£25
£225

Additional weekly hardship allowance
£0.00
£100


 
 

TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT
£6,000
£29,900

And out of that I would be expected to pay council tax of more than £100 per month compared to £400 for a whole year in Catalonia before I even consider water and gas which are much cheaper.  So I would rather be a pensioner over here living life in the sun than under a permanent grey and wet sky but I don't push it every opportunity which would ultimately get on your wick.

Gyronut,
My posting was not directed at you.
I asked Tony to clarify his obvious mickey taking at the expense of owners who have been ripped off,which as he continually explains he has not been silly enough to allow to happen to himself.
As to fellow countrymen sticking together,it will never happen on this forum,as there are two distinc groups.
One group has ample spare cash to not be affected by any of the Cedula problems and never make any mistakes
and the other owners who ONLY want what the paperwork says they originally purchased !
(Tony, please moderate /remove your bad language)

Well Bigyin if your house was built before 1984 then you should have no trouble getting a Cedula, you don't need a building license.    It's only the houses that were built after 1984 that have the problem, so I am led to believe.
We are not affected by the Cedula situation (we have one) but we are very much affected by the new road that is proposed, it could wipe our  house out, or be very close. But such is life, we will have to wait to see if this happens. So we to have problems , but we get on with it, what is the point of blaming everyone it won't change the situation will it!!! 

My house was built in the eighteenth century long before building licences existed,so does this mean I will have no problem getting a Cedula ?
Has anyone had a property dated,I presume an Architect would be neaded ?

Update on my Cedula de Habitabilidad:
I went to the Ajuntament in Roquetes today and they issued me with the document I need for the next stage.  Next stage is the Architect.. Will update when I know more.  The certificate cost 45 euros - I know some Ajuntaments charge, others don't.

I don't know the legalities of septic tanks and solar(other than it is illegal to have a soakaway anymore) but the attitude of all the locals I know is "just do it but quickly". I would observe that a forca septica is underground and if it is done quickly who is to know.

Gas contracts are as previously stated. You can get one for a fee even on a caravan out here if it passes the inspection. Once you have one you can get several bottles. Or you can just buy a few bottles as know one asks for Id etc when exchanging them. It's the contract situation that has made Spain one of the few eu countries that has a gas bottle black Market. Go figure.

As for solar panels on a finca you would be "farming" sunlight? I actually know someone who used this argument on an ayuntamiento technico successfully and will happily use it myself if needed.
Bruixot